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Beware the ‘ghaeratmand’

Beware the ‘ghaeratmand

  • Flyers distributed against named ‘Ahmadis’ urging believers to publicly shoot them

By Urooj Zia (Pakistan Today, 25 December 2010)

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KARACHI: Flyers, issued under the name of the Aalmi Majlis-e-Tahaffuz-e-Khatm-e-Nubuwwat (AMTKN), calling for the deaths of named ‘Ahmadis’ and likening the murder to Jihad are fake and have not been issued by the AMTKN, the organisation’s Markazi Nazim-e-Ittela’at (central information secretary) Azizur Rehman told Pakistan Today.

The flyers contain text similar to that found on the AMTKN website, and make an appearance fairly regularly in urban centres. They name individuals, along with their personal details, call them ‘Ahmadis’ and as such, categorically call for their murders with phrases such as, “Aisey logon ko bharey bazaar meiN goli maarna jihad hai” (Shooting such people in the market is jihad).

Rehman, however, distanced his organisation from these goings-on and promised to investigate the matter. “People should not believe that these have been issued by us. We do not believe in wanton violence and do not print flyers or pamphlets calling for murder. The law should take its course,” he said.

  1. Farhan virk
    December 27, 2010 at 00:47

    O.k i’m sorry! Won’t tease you again. I’m just a student need to learn more. May be you’ve more intelligence than me. I’ll learn something from you and you’ll perhaps learn something from me. Don’t ask me to go away! I’m not that bad. It’s my pleasure to argue on such matters with talented people like you. Hopefully my sarcastic brain will improve with time. Thanks

  2. Farhan virk
    December 27, 2010 at 00:41

    At that my stance was just same i said those who raped her deserve serious punishment. But i said Pakistani girls should also resist living with non mehrams without marriage. That’s what i said. You took me wrongly! I never asked to free the alleged raper’s. It was wrongly assumed by you.
    Sorry you had to edit it. But even if that stuff is copy paste what do you have in hand to prove that it is wrong!

  3. December 26, 2010 at 22:52

    Farhan Virk, come back when you’ve learnt to use your brain, instead of copy-pasting from the Khatm-e-Nubuwwat website. Also, learn to copy-paste — I had to edit your comment for line-breaks.

    As to how much you “respect women” was obvious from your comments where you stated that rape survivors “ask for it”. Your bullshit is not welcome here. Go. away.

  4. Farhan virk
    December 26, 2010 at 22:30

    I can quote thousands of such citations from Ahmedi books in which they quote non Ahmedi’s non muslims and sons of prostitutes! Just gave a few to open your eyes. I can used bad words like you did for me but i respect women and freedom of speech. Hope you understand. A clap takes place by slapping both hands. The muslim fanatic hand slaps with Ahmedi texts to produce such publications! Both are responsible. That’s my opinion.

  5. Farhan virk
    December 26, 2010 at 22:26

    bolshevik you deserve an answer now :) i still say It’s totally wrong to publish such weird stuff. But you deserve an answer why Ahmedi’s are threatened by these muslim fanatics? Try reading following Ahmedia quotes and citations!
    They raise the slogan: LOVE FOR ALL, HATRED FOR NONE. However in real life all these claims fly in the face. The founder of Ahmadiyya Movement, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, has this to say about the Muslims (non-Ahmadi Muslims) “Except for the CHILDREN OF PROSTITUTE, whose hearts have been sealed by God, everyone else believes in me and has accepted me.” (Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Roohani Khazain vol.5 p.547)

    “God has revealed to me that anyone to whom my message has reached and he has not accepted me , he is not a muslim.” (Letter of Mirza to Dr. Abdul Hakeem Khan Patialvi)

    “I have God’s inspiration that he who does not follow you and will not enter your Ba’ith and remain your opponent, he is disobedient of God and His Prophet, Hellish.” (Advertisement in M’ayaar-ul- Akhyar by Mirza Ghulam p.8)

    “Thus remember as God has informed me, it is forbidden and absolutely forbidden to pray behind any disbeliever and hesitant; but is should be that your imam should be one of
    you.” (Arbaeen No 3, Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.417 footnote) Some one asked a question and Mirza has replied to it. Both are mentioned in his book, Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi. I quote:
    “Question: Huzoor-e-aali has mentioned in thousands of places that it is not at all right to call KAFIR a Kalima-go (one who recites a Kalima) and an Ahle-Qibla. It is quite obvious that except those Momineen who become Kafir by rejecting you, just by not accepting you no one becomes a Kafir. But you write to Abdul Hakeem Khan that anyone who has received my message and he has not accepted me, he is not Muslim. There is contradiction between this statement and the statements in previous books. Earlier in Tiryaq-ul-
    Quloob etc you had mentioned that no one becomes Kafir by not accepting you and now you are writing that by rejecting me he becomes a Kafir.
    Answer: This is strange that you consider the person who rejects me and the person who calls me Kafir as two different persons, whereas in the eyes of God he is the same type; because he who does not accept me is because he considers me a fabricator…. apart from this, he who does not accept me, he does not believe in God and His Prophet as well, because there is God’s and his Prophet’s prophecy regarding me” (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.167)

    “It is our obligation that we do not consider non-ahmadis as muslims and do not pray behind them, because for us they have rejected one prophet (Mirza Ghulam) of God. This is a
    religious matter and no one has any right to do anything in it.” (Anwar-e-Khilafat, by Mirza Mahmood, Khalifa 2, p.90)

  6. Farhan virk
    December 25, 2010 at 21:19

    Although i always distance myself from liberals in most issues but this issue is a serious one. And i know we’ve such muslim fanatics that can shoot any Ahmedi on sight. Those who publish such letters should be seriously punished. Fanaticism has always been a problem whether it’s liberal or conservative side. I protest to such newsletters and our goverment should seriously take this matter into attention.
    Although Bolshevik used street language for me at Sana Saleems article but i want to praise her for this masterpiece! Ahmedi’s may be non muslims but they’re Pakistanis. They should treated as Pakistanis

    • December 26, 2010 at 18:00

      Oooh Farhan Virk, I’m so indebted to you for your praise! Not. Your bigotry is astounding. What gives you the right to pass judgement on anyone’s faith? Who died and made you god? Please take your hate-mongering elsewhere. ThanQ.

  7. Inspirex
    December 25, 2010 at 18:14

    How the hell can media print such an ad? it was clearly a paid ad!

    • December 25, 2010 at 18:17

      Abay ghaur sey parho yaar, it wasn’t an ad. These were flyers. Distributed at traffic signals, etc.

  1. December 27, 2010 at 01:34

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